I have to ask this, and maybe someone can give me an answer. Vorador was beheaded 400 years before Blood Omen 2 took place...soooo, what exactly is he doing running around in Meridian? He's dead! Kain doesn't even mention the fact that Moebius killed Vorador, it's just kind of...forgotten. What's the deal?
Question about Vorador...this is really bugging me!
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 Adolen and Murray |
Question about Vorador...this is really bugging me! |
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Posts: 2 (04/22/03 09:25 PM) |
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Zlyxon |
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Posts: 26 (04/22/03 09:39 PM) |
3 possibilities come to mind...
1. It has been stated (by Amy of CD I believe) that Blood Omen 2 takes place in the timeline that was altered by the events of SR2. So something that happened in SR2 could have resulted in his not dying. 2. Kain used the power of the Heart of Darkness to revive Vorador. 3. Kain used his own power to revive Vorador. It is established that he eventually gains the power to create vampires by drawing souls back into their bodies. Perhaps after the events in BO1, he used this same power to revive Vorador (no one said that one can't draw a vampire soul back into its body. Heck, they seem inclined to hop back in all by themselves in SR1). Although it seemed Kain did not yet have the power to create new vampires in BO2, he could have had enough power to guide the soul of a vampire back to its corpse. |
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LadyNecro |
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Posts: 726 (04/23/03 05:44 AM) |
Many things have been changed from the original game, for exepel the serafan that in the new games are refered to as warrior prists and before was sorecerer prists. But if i dont remember incorectly Voradors ececution is mentiond in Soul Reaver 1 so i do belive Raziel do somthing in the 3 soul reaver game that save Vorador.
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Tue72 |
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Posts: 640 (04/23/03 08:09 AM) |
Perhaps he actually do save Vorador - since he also talks to him in SR2.
But as a comment to "2." using the heart of darkness on Vorador is out of the question since it was placed back in Janos. |
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LadyNecro |
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Posts: 726 (04/23/03 12:12 PM) |
we dont know if the harh of darkness is placed back in Janos yet.
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Maleks Helmet |
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Posts: 17 (04/23/03 01:23 PM) |
Were getting into madnening nitpicking teritory here but Janos never said the Heart revived him (though it probably did) he just said nothing diviine could truly die (or words to that effect).
Assuming the heart was returned to Janos it could have been done at anytime before his imprionment by the Sarafan Lord, so it could have been used on Vorodor BEFORE Janos got it back. It's all a load of maybes and what ifs! Aghhh! They tell us Vorodor's survival will be explanined later but basicly they forgot to do it at the time. And boy did we suffer for the vagueness! |
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Paul03 |
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Posts: 18 (04/24/03 05:32 PM) |
I know my two cents probably doesn't carry a lot of weight, but check this out. If you pay real close attention to the intro fmv of BO2 you'll see Vorador a few times. At least it looks like him. It's the same face structure but I can't see the face too clearly. So it seems that Vorador is revived shortly after BO1, whether it's normal timeline or altered I don't know. Whew, quite a rant.
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MandyK08857 |
poor continuation | ||
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Posts: 250 (04/25/03 10:44 AM) Banned User |
Crystal Dynamics and Eidos must have been smoking crack when they were making Blood Omen 2. First of all, they probably couldn't think of a new character to lead the Cabal, so they just made Vorador the leader hoping we wouldn't notice. Also, Blood Omen 1 did not end in Kain having an army of vampires. He was the only vampire left in Nosgoth! Blood Omen 2 has one of the saddest storylines I've ever heard, but it's still a good game.
 "Free will is an illusion" -Kain 
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Aradiel |
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Posts: 8583 (04/25/03 10:45 AM) |
Yes, at the end of BO1 Kain did not have an army of vampires - he got it later from Vorador (it is said, or srtongly implied, in the BO2 dialogue)
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redeemer |
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Posts: 77 (04/29/03 05:32 PM) |
think about it this way....at the end of sr2 raz is still in the stronghold....he hates the guts of moebious,...so my guess is that raz kills mo instead of kain killing mo....no vampire purge, no dead vorador
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The Hilden |
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Posts: 1816 (04/29/03 05:50 PM) |
Yeah, I agree. Maybe Raziel will kill him in SR3. They only have like 500 plus years until Voridor dies on the origional timeline, so anythings possible until then.
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sun in storm |
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Posts: 2711 (04/30/03 03:11 AM) |
i like that theory! yeah! lets just kill moebious.
i wouldn't advice eating his soul thou, probably poisoneous... |
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widowmaker26 |
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Posts: 23 (04/30/03 05:13 AM) |
I have to agree with that one. Raziel probably does kill Mob.
We'll have to wait for SR3 before we can be sure. My enemys have taken everything from me, all my wealth and power, but they could not kill me........They've taken everything but the beating of my undead heart. Now they will learn the meaning of fear, I shall regain my powers and I shall come to them in the night.......... And my visits shall not be kind........
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Shengali |
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Posts: 993 (04/30/03 03:13 PM) |
*shakes his head and walks away*
"Fear rules those weak enough to accept it" -Greven Il'vec
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The Hilden |
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Posts: 1816 (04/30/03 05:29 PM) |
I asume the shaking of head was towards the possible death of Mobius. It wont happen, I was joking when I said I agreed. I think the theory was a joke itself, of course I could be wrong
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Shengali |
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Posts: 993 (04/30/03 08:17 PM) |
The Moebius part is kinda an interesting idea, they are changing history afterall.
No, the head shaking part had to do with the fact that I've answered at least 5 other questions related to this in this section of the forum alone. Check most of the q's by MandyK... "Fear rules those weak enough to accept it" -Greven Il'vec
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Novek |
Temporal Reaver? | ||
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Posts: 365 (05/01/03 02:46 AM) |
Maybe Kain kills Moe in the SR2 time just after saving Raz, the SR takes Moe's soul and powers making a Temporal(Time) Reaver, one that can shift through time and allow the wielder to resist the pull of history and rewrite history as they see fit....and maybe I am dreaming, would be kinda cool though to have it happen at the end of SR3.
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The Hilden |
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Posts: 1816 (05/01/03 03:03 PM) |
 at shengaliI see what you mean lol Bye the way, anyone smoked any crack lately? 
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The Hilden |
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Posts: 1816 (05/01/03 03:14 PM) |
That idea for the alteration for the temporal reaver is good, I don't know how they'd suck Mobius's soul into the reaver; I think it's still a blood reaver at the end of SR2. Unless raziels intiment moment of being drained a little by it was enough to turn the reaver. Anyway, I'm loosing focus. The premis of it would be interesting. How would you fight against a temporal reaver, that I suppose would have the power to wisk you, or maybe just your soul,(now there's a thought) to another time.
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Shengali |
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Posts: 993 (05/01/03 04:08 PM) |
Even though Novek said Kain I'm thinking Raziel would get the final blow. Afterall, he's the one with the upgradable reaver.
I think at the end of SR2 the Blood Reaver has been turned into the Soul Reaver. It already has a part of Raziel, that's all it needs. It can just grow to full power. Here's what I mean: While playing either SR or SR2 there are times when Raziel's meter is low. Suck in enough souls=full. Same thing with the reaver, I believe the more souls it sucks the stronger it'll get until it hits it's cap. Besides, in SR series a soul is split countless times and is still capable of things: EXP. Kain splits his soul between the six Lts and himself; You can drain a human of his soul, but as long as you leave a little he'll recouperate.(It works, I've done it.) "Fear rules those weak enough to accept it" -Greven Il'vec
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Wolfe13 |
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Posts: 1 (05/23/03 02:09 PM) |
Did not Kain see Voradoor being beheaded after returning from the past, but was not that time that he returned from further in the future?? So this time (BO2) was before Moebius did the beheading?? Or am I totaly confused?
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