why must janos stay dead?

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watcher	Could be more to it	#21	[-]
Posts: 24 (03/21/03 09:51 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	If Kain can see that the Hylden use Janos to power the machine he should be able to also see that he is able to destroy the device and kick ass in general. I think the implications go further than that and it might have something to do with Janos falling into the Hylden Hilton and what further evil plan the Hylden come up with using Janos. (Lot of anal probing jokes here).
Natasha Compagnon	Re: Could be more to it	#22	[-]
Posts: 1330 (03/21/03 11:43 PM) No, the Other One Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	And those are always fun jokes. I do wonder what's going to happen to him in there.... *** Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis ad capul tuum saxum immane mittam. - I have a catapult. Give me all the money or I will fling an enormous rock at your head.
raziel3186	makes sense	#23	[-]
Posts: 50 (03/22/03 03:28 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	well, the stuff about the altered timeline and stuff makes sense. so if janos stays dead, the hylden still break through due to kain damning the pillars, but they cant use him to power the device. so i guess they just kinda hang out powerlessly in the original timeline, not even noticed? thanks for the info though people. i'm sure i'll still be scratching my head about this stuff until sr3 though, i guess.
MitharC	Re: makes sense	#24	[-]
Posts: 760 (03/22/03 06:05 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Quote: so if janos stays dead, the hylden still break through due to kain damning the pillars, but they cant use him to power the device. Like said before, we think that the goal of that whole Hylden invasion was to get Janos to the Demon dimension. The Device really didn't matter at all, because history states that Kain destroys the Mass and frees Janos before the Hylden get the chance to use the Device. "It is not often that a man sees his own corpse, it is a sobering experience. But I am far less interested in my own corpse than I am in yours. Prepare yourself, vampire"- Malek
Aradiel	Re: makes sense	#25	[-]
Posts: 8564 (03/22/03 06:12 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	According to some of the speech in BO2, the Hylden couldn't stay/survive in Nosgoth unless the gate stayed open. Now, that coupled with the claim that the pillars banished the Hylden, and the ideas of the races being alien to Nosgoth.... It all seems to imply that the Hylden first lived in the demon realm, came through the gate, the pillars closed the gate, the majority of the hylden left. Later, pillars collapse, gate reopens, Kain closes it, with Janos inside. joey.alcopop.org/ BYOND <--- Want cheaper games? The click here!
Morgoth	The SL	#26	[-]
Posts: 136 (03/22/03 11:50 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The SL gets out because Kain destroyed the Pillar of Balance. You learn this when Janos is resturned to his normal self after you destroy the mass. As to why Janos needs to stay dead well, we will just have to wait and see.
MitharC	Re: The SL	#27	[-]
Posts: 760 (03/23/03 12:11 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I'm not so sure that the dimension from where the Hylden came from and the dimension to where they were banished is the same one. The Hylden seemed so pissed off about being sent there, and the Sarafan Lord said that their banishment somehow degenerated the entire race. I would imagine that it would've happened already before they came to Nosgoth... "It is not often that a man sees his own corpse, it is a sobering experience. But I am far less interested in my own corpse than I am in yours. Prepare yourself, vampire"- Malek
Shengali	Re: The SL	#28	[-]
Posts: 993 (03/23/03 12:32 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Okay, I wanna say that before my reason for Janos staying dead was only based on what we know so far. Like someone else said "we'll see". There are probably other reasons, but as they are yet to be known, I couldn't list them. Alright, everyone is saying the Hylded came from a demon dimension...sorry, not everyone. Anyways, no one ever asks where the Ancients come from. Everyone seems to think they all just started in Nosgoth. Isn't it possible that the Hylded also started in Nosgoth. That would explain the war: it was about which was the dominant species. I agree that they were banished to the demon realm, and that it really sucks for them. I wonder how they used to look? The SL said that it degenerated them. So, if they look soo ugly, and according to the pictures, they're still ugly...what did they look like before? the Seer? I mean, when you get to the Hylden city there are some pics on the walls and such....but... ...man, they're just sooo ugly!!!
MitharC	Re: The SL	#29	[-]
Posts: 760 (03/23/03 04:04 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I don't think so... sob "It is not often that a man sees his own corpse, it is a sobering experience. But I am far less interested in my own corpse than I am in yours. Prepare yourself, vampire"- Malek
Shengali	Re: The SL	#30	[-]
Posts: 993 (03/23/03 08:33 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Oh, I'm sorry MitharC. Don't be sad.
Spikes47	Re: .	#31	[-]
Posts: 281 (03/23/03 08:51 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Wait before you guys start to pummel me with insults, I was in the understanding that the reaver was created during the time of the blue ancients. Aradiel in your timeline you state that the reaver was created when Janos was killed, but wasnt it made long before? I just saw Janos reveal the reaver to Raz in SR2. I understand that Janos went into the other dimension at the end of BO2, but does it really matter that he did? If he stayed dead he wouldn't have gone in yes, but i just don't think it matters. I just thought it was important that he stay dead, because in BO2 Janos was that beast that was powering the hylden city with his blood. So I thought if he would have stayed dead, that would not have happened and than the city would not exist or at least not have power. Correct me if I'm wrong because I feel I am. "Embrace your destiny, Raziel. You must reclaim the Reaver - it was forged for you and you alone... Without it, there is no hope..." -Janos Audron
Shengali	Re: .	#32	[-]
Posts: 993 (03/23/03 10:35 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	There more than likely another reason why Janos must stay dead, It'll probably be revealed in SR3. We don't know yet for obvious reasons. The part about the reaver being created at the time of death: I think they were talking about the Soul Reaver, the one with Raziel's soul in it('cause it happens not long after Janos' death in the original timeline).
Spikes47	Re: .	#33	[-]
Posts: 281 (03/23/03 10:49 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Ya they probably were. Because when you say "reaver" I naturally implied that they meant the original reaver without Raziel's soul. "Embrace your destiny, Raziel. You must reclaim the Reaver - it was forged for you and you alone... Without it, there is no hope..." -Janos Audron
MitharC	Re: .	#34	[-]
Posts: 760 (03/24/03 01:18 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Read my previous post Like said before, we think that the goal of that whole Hylden invasion was to get Janos to the Demon dimension. The Device really didn't matter at all, because history states that Kain destroys the Mass and frees Janos before the Hylden get the chance to use the Device. Does this explane it? "It is not often that a man sees his own corpse, it is a sobering experience. But I am far less interested in my own corpse than I am in yours. Prepare yourself, vampire"- Malek
Aradiel	Re: .	#35	[-]
Posts: 8564 (03/24/03 12:20 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Yes, the Soul Reaver is created just after Janos' death, the Blood Reaver is created beforehand. How long? We don't know. joey.alcopop.org/ BYOND <--- Want cheaper games? The click here!
Spikes47	Re: .	#36	[-]
Posts: 281 (03/24/03 09:00 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	well it's nice to know that CD is preparing for more Blood Omens and Soul Reavers. I have the strongest feeling that the series won't stop with SR3 and BO3. As much as I want the series to continue, I want closure allready. There is so much that is unanswered. "Embrace your destiny, Raziel. You must reclaim the Reaver - it was forged for you and you alone... Without it, there is no hope..." -Janos Audron
Blade of the Vampires	GET IT RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!	#37	[-]
Posts: 87 (06/17/03 12:41 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Here's the timeline. 500 B.K.- the Sarafan lieutenants are killed 0 B.K.- Ariel is killed and Nupraptor goes mad 30 A.K.- Kain kills the Circle and damns the Pillars 200 A.K.- Kain and his armies are defeated by the Sarafan, Kain becomes comatose 400 A.K.- Kain wakes up and kills the Sarafan Lord 500 A.K.- Raziel and his bretheren are ressurected as vampires. 1500 A.K.- Raziel is cast into the Abyss 1900-2200 A.K.- Raziel awakens and kills his bretheren There, does that clear anything up?
Aradiel	Re: GET IT RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!	#38	[-]
Posts: 8564 (06/18/03 10:33 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I'vwe corrected it to be what we have discussed and came to conlusions about: 0500 B.K.- the Sarafan lieutenants are killed 0000 B.K.- Ariel is killed and Nupraptor goes mad 0030 A.K.- Kain kills the Circle and damns the Pillars 0230 A.K.- Kain and his armies are defeated by the Sarafan, Kain becomes comatose 0430 A.K.- Kain wakes up and kills the Sarafan Lord 0500 A.K.- Raziel and his bretheren are ressurected as vampires. 1500 A.K.- Raziel is cast into the Abyss 2500 A.K.- Raziel awakens and kills his bretheren *Quote:* There, does that clear anything up? I don't really see the relevence to that section of the Timeline being here, but I can't be bothered to look over all the other posts again. joey.alcopop.org/
wraithblade6	right huh?	#39	[-]
Posts: 3051 (06/18/03 06:00 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Raz was only in the Abyss for 200 years.
Aradiel	Re: right huh?	#40	[-]
Posts: 8564 (06/19/03 12:36 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	*Quote:* Raz was only in the Abyss for 200 years. How do you know that? Nowhere does it say that he was there for that long, infact, we say it was 100 years because that is our best guess going by the evidence (the only evidence I know of being the deleted dialogue) joey.alcopop.org/

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